I don’t doubt that he cheated and Elon helped him get away with it, but I also equally don’t doubt that people were stupid enough to vote for him. Cuz people are still stupid enough to vote for him a fourth time if they were given the opportunity to.
Suspicious-Ad6635 on
“It’s not the people who vote that count. It’s the people who count the votes.” ~ Joseph Stalin (maybe)
I mean, did exit polls predict a different outcome? I have no difficulty believing that 50% of the electorate voted for this guy.
Time-Cell8272 on
There was definitely some shenanigans of the vote manipulation kind
RDrake84 on
In democracy it’s your vote that counts. In feudalism it’s your count that votes.
DapirateTroll on
Them cheating, lots of Americans are racist and dumb AND the people virtue signaling about Gaza claiming they couldn’t vote for genocide (Kamala) is how this turd won.
LBChango on
There’s provable mass voter disenfranchisement. Greg Palast has a good breakdown in his documentary “Vigilantes Inc”. I wouldn’t doubt they would cheat beyond voter disenfranchisement
ingoding on
Some of us have been screaming this since election day. Statistically impossible for Turmp to win all seven swing states.
Drummer-Turbulent on
To bad instead of doing anything people come here to complain. Nothing will change. They’ll take your retirement away and make you thank them. I hate this place
cubswin987 on
I agree no way he won fair & square.
Japjer on
Remember the disproportionate amount of bullet ballots?
VividBlade on
If they really did cheat before, I don’t know why they would be pushing the save act so hard. I think there are just way too many idiots in this country.
mrgraff on
Ok. But what’s going on in the picture?
PointBreakvsLebowski on
I have believed this since day one
lucasbuzek on
Didn’t Elon have the results couple of hours before it was officially confirmed?
jgainsey on
florezmith on
Let’s play fairytale pretend for two seconds and pretend that the whole thing was on the up and up. A $200 million campaign donation to destroy trillions worth of assets in the Middle East, evaporate soft power globally and drive the country into insolvency is a crazy return on investment.
LightBeerOnIce on
She’s wearing that dress aging? Is this old?
darthphallic on
Idk man, I know so so so so many otherwise fairly progressive boomers that voted Trump solely because he thought he would be good for the stock market and because they foolishly thought checks and balances would keep him from being unhinged and evil.
AQ207 on
While that may be true, Kamala was a flawed candidate who was put in the worst position possible.
Hvad_Fanden on
It is very likely he lost by a very small margin and thus managed to get away with cheating somehow, but at the of the day, a LOT of people DID vote for him, and that’s worse.
tallwhiteninja on
I think a lot of you need to accept the unfortunate reality that a significant percentage of this country would happily send any “other” groups into camps if they thought it meant sub-$2 gas prices. Covid was a wake-up call for me: the specifics of masks and vaccines did not matter, it was people rejecting “make a small sacrifice to potentially save lives” as a core premise.
While red states have been doing various degrees of voter suppression for ages, there has yet to be anything concrete indicating the election was outright rigged. People thought the economy was bad and voted for someone they thought would make it good; they don’t care about anything else, and they are either too dumb or too apathetic to look behind the curtain and see the realities of the economic situation.
GastonsChin on
Recent studies have shown that if every eligible voter cast a vote in the election, Trump still would’ve won.
That’s how fucked up this country is.
jtclark1107 on
They’re not using doge to cover their tracks. They’re using the stolen information & and the SAVE act to win the midterms and then he’s president until he dies.
BruceLeeIfInflexible on
Counterpoint: most peoples’ entire worldview is constructed via social media algorithms.
Trump: “We’re going to get the haters and losers out of this country!”
Haters and losers: “Hell yeah, those guys are ruining America!”
Not a synapse of self-awareness fires between the leader-movement dynamic.
allanmoller on
He dosnt seem to be at all concerned about the midterms, he is definitely planning to rig the midterms, or simply deny the result.
gozer33 on
The results matched the polling. There are a lot of clueless voters.
ToastyJackson on
I think this view gives American voters too much credit honestly. I can absolutely see Trump getting all those votes. I mean, even if they did cheat, they’d only need to do so in swing states because those are the only ones that actually matter in presidential elections. So he must’ve legitimately got the tens of millions of votes from the other states. And if you can believe he got those votes, it’s not much of a leap to think he could’ve won the swing states as well. There are many reasons people voted for Trump, ranging from them being bad people who legitimately like him and his policies, to only voting for specific issues like abortion, to being ignorant people who don’t really pay attention to or understand politics and then just vote on vibes and soundbites. Also remember that the economy is a major factor for swing voters, and Trump’s team and really the media as a whole were doing everything in their power to pin inflation, the price of eggs, and every other economic issue at the time on Biden and his administration.
It is possible that they cheated, I’m not saying otherwise. But I just think people have way too much faith in their fellow voters if their reason for believing that he cheated is just that they believe that a majority of Americans are good, well-informed people who would never vote for someone like Trump.
HotYogurtCloset69 on
Yeah, they’ve already admitted to doing it…
oddmarc on
Y’all can’t fathom that most of your country are idiots hahaha
Gardez_geekin on
Why do the same people who decry Qanon rush to believe conspiracy theories if they are anti Trump? I voted Harris but held no illusions that Trump was unbeatable.
SugarStunted on
Elon openly admitted to buying votes, and the courts allowed it. I feel like people keep forgetting that. Despite it being, you know, illegal af.
Dazedandamused97 on
I feel like people sometimes underestimate just how dumb some people can be. I have a lovely coworker who is so nice, very eager to please, gets along with everybody. She said she voted for Trump. She is Mexican. Moved here from Mexico. I just stared at her for a moment before going “but…. why?” She said he was going to make groceries cheaper, and she wanted cheaper groceries. Bless her heart.
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I don’t doubt that he cheated and Elon helped him get away with it, but I also equally don’t doubt that people were stupid enough to vote for him. Cuz people are still stupid enough to vote for him a fourth time if they were given the opportunity to.
“It’s not the people who vote that count. It’s the people who count the votes.” ~ Joseph Stalin (maybe)
[[Elon] knows those vote counting computers and we ended up winning Penn in a landslide. So thank you Elon.](https://youtu.be/F9gCyRkpPe8?si=gC13_LB6mD7-0OMe)
I mean, did exit polls predict a different outcome? I have no difficulty believing that 50% of the electorate voted for this guy.
There was definitely some shenanigans of the vote manipulation kind
In democracy it’s your vote that counts. In feudalism it’s your count that votes.
Them cheating, lots of Americans are racist and dumb AND the people virtue signaling about Gaza claiming they couldn’t vote for genocide (Kamala) is how this turd won.
There’s provable mass voter disenfranchisement. Greg Palast has a good breakdown in his documentary “Vigilantes Inc”. I wouldn’t doubt they would cheat beyond voter disenfranchisement
Some of us have been screaming this since election day. Statistically impossible for Turmp to win all seven swing states.
To bad instead of doing anything people come here to complain. Nothing will change. They’ll take your retirement away and make you thank them. I hate this place
I agree no way he won fair & square.
Remember the disproportionate amount of bullet ballots?
If they really did cheat before, I don’t know why they would be pushing the save act so hard. I think there are just way too many idiots in this country.
Ok. But what’s going on in the picture?
I have believed this since day one
Didn’t Elon have the results couple of hours before it was officially confirmed?
Let’s play fairytale pretend for two seconds and pretend that the whole thing was on the up and up. A $200 million campaign donation to destroy trillions worth of assets in the Middle East, evaporate soft power globally and drive the country into insolvency is a crazy return on investment.
She’s wearing that dress aging? Is this old?
Idk man, I know so so so so many otherwise fairly progressive boomers that voted Trump solely because he thought he would be good for the stock market and because they foolishly thought checks and balances would keep him from being unhinged and evil.
While that may be true, Kamala was a flawed candidate who was put in the worst position possible.
It is very likely he lost by a very small margin and thus managed to get away with cheating somehow, but at the of the day, a LOT of people DID vote for him, and that’s worse.
I think a lot of you need to accept the unfortunate reality that a significant percentage of this country would happily send any “other” groups into camps if they thought it meant sub-$2 gas prices. Covid was a wake-up call for me: the specifics of masks and vaccines did not matter, it was people rejecting “make a small sacrifice to potentially save lives” as a core premise.
While red states have been doing various degrees of voter suppression for ages, there has yet to be anything concrete indicating the election was outright rigged. People thought the economy was bad and voted for someone they thought would make it good; they don’t care about anything else, and they are either too dumb or too apathetic to look behind the curtain and see the realities of the economic situation.
Recent studies have shown that if every eligible voter cast a vote in the election, Trump still would’ve won.
That’s how fucked up this country is.
They’re not using doge to cover their tracks. They’re using the stolen information & and the SAVE act to win the midterms and then he’s president until he dies.
Counterpoint: most peoples’ entire worldview is constructed via social media algorithms.
Trump: “We’re going to get the haters and losers out of this country!”
Haters and losers: “Hell yeah, those guys are ruining America!”
Not a synapse of self-awareness fires between the leader-movement dynamic.
He dosnt seem to be at all concerned about the midterms, he is definitely planning to rig the midterms, or simply deny the result.
The results matched the polling. There are a lot of clueless voters.
I think this view gives American voters too much credit honestly. I can absolutely see Trump getting all those votes. I mean, even if they did cheat, they’d only need to do so in swing states because those are the only ones that actually matter in presidential elections. So he must’ve legitimately got the tens of millions of votes from the other states. And if you can believe he got those votes, it’s not much of a leap to think he could’ve won the swing states as well. There are many reasons people voted for Trump, ranging from them being bad people who legitimately like him and his policies, to only voting for specific issues like abortion, to being ignorant people who don’t really pay attention to or understand politics and then just vote on vibes and soundbites. Also remember that the economy is a major factor for swing voters, and Trump’s team and really the media as a whole were doing everything in their power to pin inflation, the price of eggs, and every other economic issue at the time on Biden and his administration.
It is possible that they cheated, I’m not saying otherwise. But I just think people have way too much faith in their fellow voters if their reason for believing that he cheated is just that they believe that a majority of Americans are good, well-informed people who would never vote for someone like Trump.
Yeah, they’ve already admitted to doing it…
Y’all can’t fathom that most of your country are idiots hahaha
Why do the same people who decry Qanon rush to believe conspiracy theories if they are anti Trump? I voted Harris but held no illusions that Trump was unbeatable.
Elon openly admitted to buying votes, and the courts allowed it. I feel like people keep forgetting that. Despite it being, you know, illegal af.
I feel like people sometimes underestimate just how dumb some people can be. I have a lovely coworker who is so nice, very eager to please, gets along with everybody. She said she voted for Trump. She is Mexican. Moved here from Mexico. I just stared at her for a moment before going “but…. why?” She said he was going to make groceries cheaper, and she wanted cheaper groceries. Bless her heart.